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see what's making the headlines with the
broadcaster and commentator Ali Mirage
and the journalist and broadcaster Jenny
Cleman. They'll be with us from now
until just before midnight. Welcome
both. Now, let's see what is on some of
those front pages. Well, the metro leads
with Nigel Farage's pledge to detain and
deport every illegal migrant if Reform
UK win the election.
The I highlights Mr. Faraj's promise of
600,000 deportations over 5 years of
government.
And that vow by the reform UK leader is
also on front of the express.
While the Telegraph focuses on the
proposal to give money to the Iranian
government and the Taliban for taking
migrants back,
the Mail commends the pledge and goes
with the headline, "Finally, a
politician who gets it." The Mirror is
squarely against the plans, declaring
Britain is better than this.
And the Guardian leads on accusations of
ugly populism against Mr. Farage.
In other stories, the Financial Times
hears that Donald Trump has told
European leaders the US is willing to
provide intelligence and battlefield
resources to bolster any panuropean
security agreement that may be made for
a post-war Ukraine.
Meanwhile, on the front of the sun,
music superstar Taylor Swift's
engagement to American footballer Travis
Kelce, as does the star with the
headline, wedding t.
And we are joined tonight by Ali Mirage
and Jenny Kleman. Great to have you
both. We will of course get to Taylor
Swift's engagement, but um there is a
story obviously dominating all the front
pages, and that was Nigel Farage's
speech. very different uh takes uh
obviously on a lot of the papers. Um
Jenny, let me start with you. I mean, we
can bring up we'll look at all the front
pages. Let's start with the metro uh
there uh where they quote uh some of the
things that Nigel Farage was saying.
What did you make of what he said? Both
the the the words he used and the actual
policies. Nigel Farage is the most
influential consequential politician of
the last 20 years in this country even
without being in government because his
ability to pull the needle to pull the
the needle of the center in one
direction to change politics not by
actually having to have policy but by uh
making everybody else respond to what
he's doing is extraordinary. He has been
you know reform have been leading in the
polls over Labor since April. This is
the big political uh conundrum of our
age, how to stop these small boat
crossings. And you know, maybe part of
the reason why he's doing so well at the
moment and reform is doing so well is
that Labour, a party with a huge
mandate, don't really stand for anything
when it comes to all of this.
It is undoubtable that illegal migration
must be addressed. But what he is
suggesting here of no ifs, no buts,
returning 600,000 people, including uh
women, to countries like Afghanistan,
potentially paying the Taliban, who of
course we fought for 20 years and and
and called terrorists, uh leaving three
international conventions, the Human
Rights Act, the Convention Against uh
torture, the the 1951 Refugee Convention
in order to make sure that there can't
be legal challenges for this Um,
it's a whole bunch of stuff that will
probably never happen because he'll
probably never have to put it into
action. The thing that's significant
about this is the response from the
Labor government who have basically not
said, you know what, we're better than
this. We're not going to do this. We're
going to tackle this another way.
They're playing along. They're not
saying it's morally wrong to do this to
return uh women and children to places
where they might be tortured. They're
saying, you know, oh, they might
potentially talk to the Taliban. Um, and
you know, there's a whole bunch of
things being proposed here. Migrants
being housed in secure barracks. I was
hearing reports about how much that was
going to cost. It's apparently per place
to build one of those a secure, you
know, facility where people can't
escape. It costs half a million per
place to to build something like that.
The numbers involved in all of this are
pie in the sky, but it kind of doesn't
matter. The point is that nobody is
saying nobody has the courage even
though Labor has this huge mandate to
say this is not who we are as a country.
We're not going to tackle this problem
in this way. We have standards and
morals and we believe in human rights
and this is not the answer. And some of
the language that he's using talking
about uh invasions of fighting age men
coming into the country and the danger
of of mobs rising up. It's really
worrying that this is now part of
mainstream political discourse.
>> Alli, just before coming to you, were
you shocked by what you heard today?
>> I wasn't shocked because I I I know that
this is what Farage stands for. I'm
shocked by how nobody has anything else
to offer and I'm shocked that the the
government with the majority that it has
doesn't stand up and say, um, this is
morally wrong.
>> Uh, I think Nigel Faraj's intervention
is uh long overdue and sorely needed. I
mean, look, we had the Tories uh
pussy-footing around on this issue uh
trying to get a Rwanda deal underway.
The reason why the Rwanda deal failed
was because of the European Convention
on Human Rights, pajama injunctions in
the middle of the night from Strasburg
judges who wouldn't allow planes to take
off. Now, the tries can say what they
want. Rwanda never got implemented
because we were in the ECR. Now, I'm not
someone who likes leaving international
conventions. Absolutely not. However,
what we have at the moment isn't
working. Labour has been in power for a
year, over a year now. And the Telegraph
has actually got a interesting quote
here from someone who's the prime
minister's spokesperson saying, "We're
not going to take anything off the table
in terms of actually speaking to Eratraa
and Afghanistan. We're not going to take
anything off the table. Get on and do
it. You're in government for heaven's
sake." So when Farage is talking about
um at the moment 600,000 that he wants
to return and he wants to leave all the
conventions and all the rest of it, he's
saying this because whatever has
happened before has not worked and this
is causing tensions in the country and
yes we have to be mindful and careful
about fermenting outrage but there is a
lot of outrage and there's a lot of
feeling that this is really unfair and
since when did it become really
conceptually it feels conceptually odd
odd to me that we would allow our border
to just be poorest where people come in,
they apply for asylum and 17,000 people
in this country who are in the middle of
their asylum applications are wandering
around the streets and disappeared.
They've disappeared. I mean, they should
be detained or they should be tagged.
Now, when I say they should be tagged on
my own uh show, people were saying, "Oh,
this is absolutely outrageous." Why is
it outrageous to police the border? I
mean, we're very concerned about
Ukraine's borders, quite rightly. We
don't seem to be that concerned about
our own. So, I think people might think
that this is radical. They might even
think it's outrageous. It's a necessary
intervention because nothing so far has
worked. And he is saying it's time to
get tough. And those who moan about
Trump, Trump has delivered on the
Mexican border. He's taking a leaf out
of this.
>> The Mexican border is different. Trump
can have influence over Mexico, threaten
Mexico with sanctions. We can't do that
with France. You know, we don't have
that same imbalance of power. Also, the
Mexican border is a land border. It's an
easier border to police. I mean these
comparisons with America is part of the
whole thing with Farage who is importing
wholesale an American style of politics
that isn't ne doesn't necessarily work
here and of course the question of what
happens with migrants when there is in
this country you're quite right you know
there are so many things that we can be
doing here we could have ID cards we
could tackle the black economy the uh
the nail bars and the car washes and all
these things which is a a pull factor
for so many people coming here but there
are push factors as well in the top five
countries countries when we're looking
at the small boats crossings they are
Sudan, Eratraa, uh Iran, Syria and
Afghanistan. We don't have arrangements
with those governments. We don't have
those kinds of dialogues. When we do,
like we had with Albania, there are
things that work. We were able to stop
the flow of Albanians into this country.
By having a a proper dialogue and I do
think I mean, yes, the numbers are not
good. you know, 50,000 in in a calendar
year. And the promise to smash the
gangs, the gangs have not been smashed.
But this, we have to give the Labor
government in, you know, in their
defense a little bit longer to use
diplomacy and use those working. Well,
it's not working right now, but
hopefully
>> the French government might fall on the
8th of September, right? Highly likely
that it's going to fall. This one out
nightclub bouncer policy that has been
suggested and is being implemented by
this government is going to do nothing
to actually reduce the numbers which are
going up. It's 45,000 in the year to
June high 10,000 higher than last year.
The present system is not working.
Farage might be coming out with radical
stuff that people find unpalatable. It's
time to get radical.
>> Can I just take a look at two front
pages that I think kind of highlight and
unsurprisingly the divide over this
issue. if you can pull up the Daily Mail
first of all. And of course they lead uh
with the Farage speech saying finally a
politician who gets it and then the
mirror um echoing a very different point
of view. The mirror there Britain is
better than this. If we can pull up the
front page of the mirror there it is. I
mean, it's obviously a a divisive issue,
but it seems that the main parties, the
Conservatives, Labor, and and Reform UK,
all agree on the issue of illegal or
let's call it irregular immigration as
well. And Nigel Farage seems to be
Jenny, the one that is putting forward a
policy so far. Well, I mean, I think
most people would agree, most people in
this country would agree that it is not
right that people are coming into this
country through channels that are not
legal, that can't be policed, that they
can't, they can't be vetted. So, coming
in not through our borders, not through
our border controls. I don't think there
are many people who would say that's
great. I'm happy with that. And it
definitely has to be tackled. The
question is, how far are we prepared to
go to stop it? Are we prepared to risk
what makes us the law-abiding country
that we are? A country who was involved
in the creation of so many of these
human rights laws and conventions. You
know, Winston Churchill, the great the
great hero, would be spinning in his
grave at the idea that we're prepared to
give up so much in in this. I mean I I
say this again Nigel Farage in his his
rhetoric today he was talking about
rising anger a risk of law of of of law
and disord disorder as a consequence of
this rising anger from these these men
of fighting age who who are coming in he
is stoking all of this and what he's
saying here it may never come to pass
but he is able to pull the center so far
to the right that even the Labour party
are entertaining these ideas
>> but he wasn't stoking Eping wasn't
stoking Eping I mean there's an ongoing
case about a guy who's alleged to have
sexually assaulted a young girl. So
that's a real case. It's a real case,
right? Absolutely a real case. But then
you have Zia Ysef on the radio this
morning talking about how Afghans are 20
more like 20 times more likely to
sexually assault people um than than
than white British people. You know,
they are stoking this and that
particular case is is based on a real
legal case. But whenever there is this
disorder, you do get the sense and you
had this in Stockport that Farage is
rubbing his hands together. 20 seconds.
>> Look, I think we need to get radical. Uh
I think it's the time for messing around
is is over and I think that the the UN
1951 refugee convention has just become
basically a smuggler's jer at the
moment.
>> Alina, we're going to have to leave it
uh there for the moment. We're going to
go to a quick break, but coming up, you
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swift response from the papers. Quite a
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>> welcome back. You're watching the press
preview. With me in the studio, Jenny
Cleman and Ali Mirage. Let's go straight
to the Financial Times. U sort of
international story, but might have an
impact on Europe and the UK. headline
here, US offers air and command backup
for Ukraine force. And now if I can
start with you, this is all about, you
know, what a post when some kind of
ceasefire resolution is found between
Ukraine and Russia. The role that the US
might actually have.
>> This is very important because uh France
and the UK are really leading this
coalition of the willing, which is meant
to be putting troops on the ground to
basically police a ceasefire on an
ongoing basis in Ukraine. Now, there are
all sorts of day-to-day issues with
that, how it would be implemented, what
would happen if uh UK and French troops
were fired upon by the by the Russians.
But the thing that the coalition of the
willing have wanted is US air support
and intelligence and surveillance
support as well. Now, that seems to be
on offer from the US now. So, the Trump
administration has moved. The thing that
they don't want, the White House does
not want under any circumstances is US
boots on the ground. They do not want to
go there. But this is definitely a step
in the right direction. But the question
is, is this actually going to get
anywhere? Are these discussions actually
going to yield anything? Because Trump
wants it over. He's tired of it now.
We've had these discussions recently. He
met Putin, of course, and then there
were the discussions with Zilinsky and
European leaders. But they're really
thorny, difficult issues to be hammered
out. That all remains to be seen whether
there's going to be any sort of
agreement which will involve sadly land
for peace.
>> Yeah. And interesting in the news
conference he was giving a little bit
earlier he specifically said this was
going to be the one that I thought was
going to be easy to solve and apparently
guess what it it hasn't been.
>> Yes. I mean we all remember a day I
could get it done in a day and then you
know I'm old enough to remember two
weeks ago where he was saying we'll have
a deal. That's what I do. I do deals.
It's complicated. And perhaps, you know,
this um this information that has been
told to the Financial Times is is a sign
of that frustration that he cannot even
get uh Putin and Zilinski in the room
together.
>> Yeah, I guess that story shows the
influence of the US in trying to solve
the European war. Let's look at another
uh story and another war in the
Guardian. This is the conflict in Gaz
and there was that dreadful attack on
Nasser Hospital in Hanunis in the south
of Gaza uh yesterday by the Israelis. 20
uh people uh killed and uh basically now
the UN has demanded that Israel's
investigation hold those responsible uh
accountable for the deaths. Jenny,
>> the UN is completely toothless in all of
this. Everybody is toothless apart from
the US. Uh you have now some uprising,
some quite significant blockades on
roads within Israel, protests in Tel
Aviv. uh you know there is a kind of
across the board a sense that this must
end has to end now we have famine we
have doctors being killed hospitals
journalists you know it is it is beyond
the pale uh and yet nobody can stop
Netanyahu apart from the US so although
we've had some rhetoric from from from
Donald Trump it's not enough so it's all
very well the UN calling for for justice
over killings I mean we need this war to
end then there needs to be a sense of
justice but you know the UN has
toothless in all of this.
>> Yeah. And we have seen today in Israel,
both in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem,
thousands of people um out on the
streets, I mean, mainly protesting about
the issue of hostages, 20 still alive,
and trying to get a deal to to have them
uh freed, but you know, also people
increasingly talking about what is
actually going on in Gaza from the
Palestinian.
>> Well, there was a deal and there is an
understanding that Hamas offered a deal.
Now, Netanyahu is up the stakes. He
wants all the hostages released in one
go. Apparently, there could be up to 20
to 50 still alive. We don't know. Uh and
bodies of others very sadly. Uh we'll
see what happens there, but the
situation is dire. You've got 62,000
people who have died. Yes, many of them
could be uh Hamas fighters. A lot of
them won't be, and many of them include
kids. Uh you've also got a famine.
You've also got the military now moving
into uh Gaza City and displacing people
from their homes. And you've also got a
broader plan on behalf of some people in
the uh Israeli government that want to
see people forcibly removed from their
homes and relocated to third countries
very openly. So it's a dire situation on
many many fronts and you've got the
hostage families understandably in
anguish just to want to get their loved
ones back. And we know that Netanyahu is
in a tight spot and he's got obviously
cases against him and wants to keep this
war going but it's it's absolutely dire
and it's very difficult to see how it
ends.
>> I mean the UN being toothless as Jenny
said and you know we all know that the
US is the main uh you know power behind
all of this. But what do you think the
role of the UK other European countries
could be? The rest of the West if you
will is there one really
>> to put pressure on on the on the US and
the role. Do you think that's being done
enough or not? I think I think the one
thing that we do have is we have a prime
minister who is good at dealing with
Donald Trump as as it has been shown
thus far. Uh and I think that's the only
thing that we can do is is is urge him
to take a stronger stand. But you know
the US is the only government that can
make any difference. All right.
>> We have a minute left. We have a lighter
story, a love story. So let's look at
the front page of the Sun headline
there. Look what you made me do. You
either know Taylor Swift's songs and you
get that or you don't. Um, and it's
Taylor Swift who is now newly engaged.
Uh, any any thoughts?
>> Well, I mean, her her love life is her
material, so I wonder what her output
is.
>> Well, if they divorce, imagine the
songs.
>> Maybe, you know, I mean, he's a big
star, too. He's won the Super Bowl three
times. He's got a big podcast. She is
the biggest uh mega star in in in music
for a very long time. It's very nice.
They've got they're getting married. The
Times already has a big analysis of her
engagement ring by somebody called Jess
Diamond. Really? Anyone who's not into
Taylor Swift, you should put yourself in
a coma for the next two years or
however.
>> Apparently, it's a $400,000 ring.
>> I heard it was a million dollars.
>> Really? Really?
>> Wow. It's already
>> It's quite big, though. In fairness,
it's quite big. It's a princess. You
wouldn't expect anything.
>> Even Donald Trump said it was a million.
He was very Yeah, send his best wishes.
He did. Good luck.
>> Anyway, on that note, we're going to
have to leave it there. I'll see you at
the top of the 11 uh for more. Coming up
next on Sky News at 11, we're going to
have reaction and analysis to reform UK
leader Nigel Farage's plans to deport
thousands of asylum seekers.